Dear Saints,

 

   Is there not application here?   The  United States, Russia, the European Union and the United Nations easily fit the description of four horns seeking to scatter Israel and Jerusalem.  Two are single-nation horns and two are "powers of the nations" horns.  If this applies, then the United States can expect to reap the following judgment:  "But these smiths or workmen have come to terrorize them and cause them to be panic-stricken, to cast out the horns or powers of the nations who lifted up their horn against the land of Judah to scatter it."  For God says, "And I am very angry with the nations that are at ease; for while I was but a little displeased, they helped forward the affliction and disaster."

 

   To what extent is this nation already terrorized and panic-stricken?  Is this already a judgment because we have messed with the land of Israel?  One of the things the antichrist will do is "distribute the land for a price" (Daniel 11:39).  Is there any doubt that our involvement in the affairs of Israel and the Middle East is at least partially economically motivated?

 

   John McTernan and Bill Koenig have written a book (info at http://www.watch.org ) synchronizing disasters that have impacted the United States on often a same-day basis whenever this nation makes  a major policy decision concerning dividing up of the land of Israel.  I fear that this nation has just begun to reap this whirlwind. 

 

Blessings to you all in Him,

 

Vern Kuenzi

http://www.restoringthevision.com

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Zechariah 1 (Amplified version)

Skip to main content14So the angel who talked with me said to me, Cry out, Thus says the Lord of hosts: I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy.
15
And I am very angry with the nations that are at ease; for while I was but a little displeased, they helped forward the affliction and disaster.
16Therefore thus says the Lord: I have returned to Jerusalem with compassion (lovingkindness and mercy). My house shall be built in it, says the Lord of hosts, and a measuring line shall be stretched out over Jerusalem [with a view to rebuilding its walls].
17Cry yet again, saying, Thus says the Lord of hosts: My cities shall yet again overflow with prosperity, and the Lord shall yet comfort Zion and shall yet choose Jerusalem.
18Then I lifted up my eyes and saw, and behold,
four horns [symbols of strength].
19And I said to the angel who talked with me, What are these? And he answered me, These are the
horns or powers which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem.
20Then the Lord showed me four smiths or workmen [one for each enemy horn, to beat it down].
21Then said I, What are these [horns and smiths] coming to do? And he said, These are the horns or powers that scattered Judah so that no man lifted up his head. But these smiths or workmen have come to terrorize them and cause them to be panic-stricken, to cast out the
horns or powers of the nations who lifted up their horn against the land of Judah to scatter it.
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International parties agree on key Mideast peace plan

'Mideast quartet' OKs '99.5 percent' of U.S. proposal

From Elise Labott
CNN
Saturday, December 21, 2002 Posted: 10:38 AM EST (1538 GMT)

President Bush and Vice President Cheney meet with diplomats from the United Nations, European Union and Russia on Friday.

President Bush and Vice President Cheney meet with diplomats from the United Nations, European Union and Russia on Friday.


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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A draft "road map" drawn up by the so-called "Mideast quartet" says the ultimate goal for the troubled region is a "final and comprehensive settlement of the Israel-Palestinian conflict by 2005" -- a process that must first begin with an immediate cease-fire.

"A settlement, negotiated between the parties, will result in the emergence of an independent, democratic and viable Palestinian state living side-by-side in peace and security with Israel and its other neighbors. The settlement will resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and end the occupation that began in 1967," the seven-page draft says.

CNN late Friday obtained a copy of the draft, which has yet to be fully approved. A senior diplomat said members of the "quartet" -- made up of the United States, Russia, the European Union and the United Nations -- have "agreed to 99.5 percent of the road map."

Delegates from the quartet met Friday in Washington -- first at the U.S. State Department and then at the White House with President Bush -- to discuss the proposal.

In a written statement after the meetings, the participants said that, "based upon a common understanding on the content and goals of this process," the group had "made substantial progress toward finalizing a road map for presentation to the parties in the near future."

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan: Implementation of the

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan: Implementation of the "road map" will require "sacrifices by both sides and parallel steps from both sides."

 

"The quartet calls for an immediate, comprehensive, cease-fire," the statement said. "All Palestinian individuals and groups must end all acts of terror against Israelis, in any location. ... Such a cease-fire should be accompanied by supportive measures undertaken by the government of Israel."

United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan said the implementation of the road map "will require sacrifices by both sides and parallel steps from both sides."

The United States was going to publicly release the plan at the quartet meeting, but under pressure from Israel it decided not to until Israeli parliamentary elections are over next month.

U.S. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher called the decision to delay "just a recognition of the reality of decision-making and the state of play in the government of Israel."

Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov called the draft "a good document."

"The most important thing is to implement it," he said. "That is our main objective now."

Under the draft road map, the quartet lays out three phases for Israel and Palestinians to follow.

Phase 1: Present to May 2003

• At the outset, the Palestinian leadership must issue an "unequivocal statement reiterating Israel's right to exist in peace and security, and calling for an immediate and unconditional cease-fire to end armed activity and all acts of violence against Israelis anywhere."

start quote... an end to all acts of violence against Israelis anywhere.end quote

-- Draft text, Middle East peace "road map"

• At the same time, the Israeli leadership must issue an "unequivocal statement affirming its commitment to the two-state vision of an independent, viable, sovereign Palestinian state living in peace and security alongside Israel." That statement also must call for an end "to violence against Palestinians everywhere."

• The draft also says Israel must withdraw from Palestinian areas from September 28, 2000 -- when the current intifada began -- and that both sides "restore the status quo that existed at that time."

• Security measures must be undertaken by both sides. A new Palestinian security apparatus must be established with its operations "aimed at confronting all those engaged in terror and dismantlement of terrorist capabilities and infrastructure."

start quote... (an end) to violence against Palestinians everywhere."end quote

-- Draft text, Middle East peace "road map"

• Israel cannot take any actions "undermining trust, including [proactive security measures], deportations, attacks on civilians; confiscation and/or demolition of Palestinian homes and property, as a punitive measure or to facilitate Israeli construction; and destruction of Palestinian institutions or infrastructure."

• Quartet representatives will begin informal monitoring of the situation on the ground during this phase. The draft also calls on Arab states to "cut off public and private funding and all other forms of support for groups supporting and engaging in violence and terror."

• This phase also details measures for Palestinian institution building, including a process to produce a draft constitution for the eventual Palestinian state. It also calls on Israel to take measures to improve the humanitarian situation in the territories, including the lifting of curfews and easing of transportation of goods.

Phase 2: June 2003-December 2003

start quoteWith such a leadership, reformed civil institutions and security structures, the Palestinians will have the active support of the quartet and the broader international community in establishing an independent, viable state.end quote

-- Draft text, Middle East peace "road map"

Phase 2 is focused on the creation of an "independent Palestinian state with provisional borders." It says such a provisional state can only be achieved once the Palestinian people have chosen leaders "uncompromised by terror" and "willing and able to build a practicing democracy based on tolerance and liberty."

"With such a leadership, reformed civil institutions and security structures, the Palestinians will have the active support of the quartet and the broader international community in establishing an independent, viable state," the draft says.

• During this phase, an international conference will be held to support Palestinian economic recovery and leading to the establishment of the provisional state "with provisional borders." At that time, Arab states are to "restore pre-intifada links to Israel."

Phase 3: 2004-2005

start quote... agreed, just, fair and realistic solution to the refugee issue, and a negotiated resolution on the status of Jerusalem that takes into account the political and religious concerns of both sides, and protects the religious interests of Jews, Christians and Muslims worldwide.end quote

-- Draft text, Middle East peace "road map"

At the start of 2004, another international conference will be held to "formally launch a process with the active, sustained and operational support of the quartet, leading to a final permanent status resolution by 2005, including on borders, Jerusalem, refugees, (and) settlements."

The quartet will then work with both sides to try to make sure the deadline is met by the end of 2005 that will result in a Palestinian state, ending the "occupation that began in 1967."

The final settlement will also result in an "agreed, just, fair and realistic solution to the refugee issue, and a negotiated resolution on the status of Jerusalem that takes into account the political and religious concerns of both sides, and protects the religious interests of Jews, Christians and Muslims worldwide."

[my inserted comment:  What about God's concerns and interests?]

• The last line of the draft says Arab states must accept "full normal relations with Israel and security for all the states of the region in the context of a comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace."

Israeli elections

The Bush administration said it will make the plan public after Israeli general elections, which are set for January 28. Israeli Prime Minister and Likud party leader Ariel Sharon will face off with Labor Party candidate Amram Mitzna for the post of prime minister.

Mitzna has promised to restart talks immediately with the Palestinians and give the talks a chance for one year. He also said he would order a total Israeli evacuation from Gaza.

Sharon takes a harder line on relations with the Palestinians, and says substantive negotiations are dependent on the Palestinian Authority reining in armed groups. He also rejects Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat as a negotiating partner and strongly backs existing Jewish settlements in the occupied territories.


 

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